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Matías Alloatti
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Старо мислење #631 Испратено Фев 21 2022, 12:49:54 Цитирај 
12 resets… Lets math this out

There is about 20% chance of hitting Slave vs Emperor in a single game.
Which means 80% of not hitting Slave vs Emperor in a single game.
You guys have just played 12 matchups… 24 games

0.8 ^ 24 = 0,0047 = 0,47%

Well, that’s still more likely than my chances of winning Elite (?)

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Старо мислење #632 Испратено Фев 21 2022, 13:38:35 Цитирај 
*yawn* :P
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Старо мислење #633 Испратено Фев 21 2022, 13:45:15 Цитирај 
Quote ( Matías Alloatti @ February 21st 2022,12:49:54 )

12 resets… Lets math this out

There is about 20% chance of hitting Slave vs Emperor in a single game.
Which means 80% of not hitting Slave vs Emperor in a single game.
You guys have just played 12 matchups… 24 games

0.8 ^ 24 = 0,0047 = 0,47%

Well, that’s still more likely than my chances of winning Elite (?)

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Great chance to see if I have them math skills :P

I think a better way of doing is to count the probability of a game ending in a draw, which would be 17/25 (68%) which keeps being these odds each time by the way, showing us how much social interaction is important in these (bluffing your opponent and tricking them makes these odds fluctuate).

So, 68% of games end in a draw, which means the odds of being here where we are from the get-go is 0,68^12 = 0,009 = 0,9% which is a bit higher than your odds.

The reason for that is that your odds do not include draws that come from draws originated from the Slave and Emperor hitting eachother both times in the matchup, I think. Regardless, it is a really low number still, but don't forget the odds of it happening again is still 68% :P
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Старо мислење #634 Испратено Фев 21 2022, 17:02:27 Цитирај 
Oh that's right. A possible tie comes from actually both players hitting Slave vs Emperor in the same matchup.

(If that happens, that will drive me crazy)
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Старо мислење #635 Испратено Фев 21 2022, 17:39:39 Цитирај 
Quote ( Matías Alloatti @ February 21st 2022,17:02:27 )

Oh that's right. A possible tie comes from actually both players hitting Slave vs Emperor in the same matchup.

(If that happens, that will drive me crazy)


Now that you have said this, surely you will jinx it :P
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Старо мислење #636 Испратено Фев 21 2022, 18:13:19 Цитирај 
I sent my predictions to Matias.
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Старо мислење #637 Испратено Фев 21 2022, 19:19:34 Цитирај 
SEMI FINAL 1 - GAME 1 - Henri Svensson vs Kai Wen Chen

Henri plays the Citizen

Kai plays the Citizen

It’s a tie. After that:

Henri plays the Citizen

Kai plays the Citizen

Another tie. Following that:

Henri plays the Citizen

Kai plays the Slave

Henri takes game 1!

SEMI FINAL 1 - GAME 2 - Henri Svensson vs Kai Wen Chen

Henri plays the Citizen

Kai plays the Citizen

It’s a tie. After that:

Henri plays the Slave

Kai plays the Emperor

Henri takes game 2, wins the matchup and advances to the final!

Semi final1
Henri Svensson Kai Wen Chew
Game1
Citizen Citizen
Citizen Citizen
Citizen W Slave
Game2
Citizen Citizen
Slave W Emperor


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@Kai Wen Chew (M3)
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Старо мислење #638 Испратено Фев 21 2022, 19:20:39 Цитирај 
The word epic is not enough to describe what these two competitors delivered to us. Henri found, after 12 resets, the exact moment to show his Slave and knock out Kai’s Emperor. With that, Henri claims his right to be part of the grand finals!

Thanks Kai for participating in E card S1!
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Старо мислење #639 Испратено Фев 21 2022, 19:20:39 Цитирај 
ITS GAME! :O
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Старо мислење #640 Испратено Фев 21 2022, 19:30:55 Цитирај 
Quote ( Jun Ho @ February 21st 2022,18:13:19 )

I sent my predictions to Matias.

Yeah!

You can verify Kai's plays and Henri's slave play :D

I'm not going to tell you Henri's Emperor play as he's your next rival ;)
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Старо мислење #641 Испратено Фев 21 2022, 19:32:26 Цитирај 
Quote ( Kai Wen Chew @ February 21st 2022,17:39:39 )

Quote ( Matías Alloatti @ February 21st 2022,17:02:27 )

Oh that's right. A possible tie comes from actually both players hitting Slave vs Emperor in the same matchup.

(If that happens, that will drive me crazy)


Now that you have said this, surely you will jinx it :P

Sorry but in the end, there was no jinxing...
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Старо мислење #642 Испратено Фев 21 2022, 22:02:40 Цитирај 
Well, good play Henri. One of us was going to crack eventually and it was me this time :D
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Старо мислење #643 Испратено Фев 22 2022, 00:34:47 Цитирај 
@Henri Svensson (A23)
@Jun Ho (A52)

WILD CARD ROUNDSEMI FINALSFINALSWINNER
#1 Henri Svensson W
#1 Henri Svensson W
Bye
#1 Henri Svensson
#4 Ricardo Antunes
#5 Kai Wen Chew
#5 Kai Wen Chew W
Finals winner
#3 Mike Chatzikonstantinou
#6 Jun Ho W
#6 Jun Ho W
#6 Jun Ho
#2 Chris Adnams W
#2 Chris Adnams
Bye


All semi final matchups are completed. Updating the knock out brackets. The grand final is starting soon!
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Старо мислење #644 Испратено Фев 22 2022, 00:36:35 Цитирај 
THE FINALS - Henri Svensson vs Jun Ho

When this season started, these two guys delivered the very first result of all. Henri took down Jun in a one go. Their paths were clearly different. Henri stayed on top positions and qualified as #1. Jun fought from behind as #6 seed. Four months have passed after their opening matchup in the Group stage, and they meet each other once again...

This time, whoever wins will be crowned the champion.

GAME 1 SIDES

Henri Svensson
You control the Emperor side on game 1

Jun Ho
You control the Slave side on game 1

GAME 2 SIDES

Jun Ho
You control the Emperor side on game 2

Henri Svensson
You control the Slave side on game 2
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Старо мислење #645 Испратено Фев 22 2022, 00:38:04 Цитирај 
You can start sending you cards.

Deadline for the first move: 24-Feb-2022, 15:00:00 CET
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Старо мислење #646 Испратено Фев 22 2022, 12:49:50 Цитирај 
THE FINALS - GAME 1 - Henri Svensson vs Jun Ho

Henri plays the Citizen

Jun plays the Citizen

It’s a tie. After that:

Henri plays the Emperor

Jun plays the Citizen

Henri takes game 1!

THE FINALS - GAME 2 - Henri Svensson vs Jun Ho

Henri plays the Citizen

Jun plays the Citizen

It’s a tie. After that:

Henri plays the Citizen

Jun plays the Citizen

Another tie. Following that:

Henri plays the Citizen

Jun plays the Citizen

One more tie. Next:

Henri plays the Slave

Jun plays the Emperor

Henri takes game 2, wins the matchup and wins the finals!

THEFINALS
Henri Svensson Jun Ho
Game1
Citizen Citizen
Emperor W Citizen
Game2
Citizen Citizen
Citizen Citizen
Citizen Citizen
Slave W Emperor


@Henri Svensson (A23)
@Jun Ho (A52)
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Старо мислење #647 Испратено Фев 22 2022, 12:50:27 Цитирај 
And just like that, in another one shot, Henri crushes Jun’s dreams with a 4th card Slave to claim victory in the grand finals!

Thanks Jun for participating in E card S1!

And congratulations Henri Svensson for winning E card S1!
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Старо мислење #648 Испратено Фев 22 2022, 13:07:45 Цитирај 
lol wasn't that quick!

Congrats on winning Henri and thanks for hosting Matias!

I think it is important to note that we learned a big lesson here (in my opinion at least): this game doesn't work for forums, at least not without adpatations :P

The odds of drawing and needing a rematch being over 50% is just mindblowing, this game was clearly meant for physical play with bluffing and visual cues from your opponents!

Still fun to play Matias. Now #BringTheCamels!
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Старо мислење #649 Испратено Фев 22 2022, 14:21:47 Цитирај 
I was gonna do 1 citizen card first too :(

Congrats Henri, good game! Cheers Matias for hosting!! Was fun :)
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Старо мислење #650 Испратено Фев 22 2022, 16:51:20 Цитирај 
Thanks guys.

Quote ( Ricardo Antunes @ February 22nd 2022,13:07:45 )

I think it is important to note that we learned a big lesson here (in my opinion at least): this game doesn't work for forums, at least not without adpatations :P


There is another game, also rock-paper-scissors related (not Slave-Citizen-Emperor), that i'm interested in explore. It's still in the oven with many details to prepare. But basically it's a game where matches are not pre arranged (like player A faces player B in a given round). Players must arrange games by talking each other, and ties are actually a good outcome (but winning is of course better and losing is obviously bad).

Quote ( Ricardo Antunes @ February 22nd 2022,13:07:45 )

Now #BringTheCamels!


Camels S5 will be my next game to host! But after my holidays :D Lets say that by the end of March camels will be back!
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Старо мислење #651 Испратено Фев 22 2022, 20:52:40 Цитирај 
Yeah!
Thats for the Match Jun och thanks for the hosting Matias.

Thank god for the Camels. :)

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Старо мислење #652 Испратено Мар 3 2022, 15:59:44 Цитирај 
Im not going to lie @Matías Alloatti (P18), it was interesting to watch, and I do hope a second season will arrive soon!

I'd make some changes, though, which are the following:

* If a draw happens more than three times, the person who won the first set will go through, so it doesnt drag out and take ages - this will make games quicker and prevent other competitors waiting for ages.

* I'd change the card allocation to 3 emperor, 3 slave, 3 citizen & a new card called 'the Minotaur' - which we'll get 3 cards for as well. The Minotaur is undefeatable, however, you can only use your allocated set, so if you run out - you won't be allowed to use it!

I'll get the rest of my changes written tonight
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Старо мислење #653 Испратено Мар 3 2022, 16:07:33 Цитирај 
Quote ( Sonny Long @ March 3rd 2022,15:59:44 )

I'd make some changes, though, which are the following:

* If a draw happens more than three times, the person who won the first set will go through, so it doesnt drag out and take ages - this will make games quicker and prevent other competitors waiting for ages.

* I'd change the card allocation to 3 emperor, 3 slave, 3 citizen & a new card called 'the Minotaur' - which we'll get 3 cards for as well. The Minotaur is undefeatable, however, you can only use your allocated set, so if you run out - you won't be allowed to use it!

I'll get the rest of my changes written tonight


You do realise this is an actual card game, so you cant just make things up lol.
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Старо мислење #654 Испратено Мар 3 2022, 23:37:06 Цитирај 
As Jun said, this is a card game that actually exists. So it could be difficult to add different cards, specially if I want to add a picture of the new card in the opening post.

It will take a while for S2 I think. There are some ideas for a more dynamic game, like starting right away in the knock out stage, maybe playing a double elimination format. Also maybe, after some ties in the same matchup, reduce the number of citizens by 1 to improve the chances of a slave vs emperor encounter.
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