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This is going to be hard season.
This is going to be interesring season :)
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Quote ( Kristijan Mihovic @ October 19th 2021,19:13:15 ) This is going to be hard season.
This is going to be interesring season :)
This IS a hard season!
This IS an interesting season!
Having four guys going for promotion means nobody in the top 10 is sandbagging this year to avoid it. Points for the managers outside the top 10/12 are going to be very tough this year. Calling it now, at least one manager is going to retain with 0 points!
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I agree with you James.
After long time I am countig days, hours and minutes until start of the race :)
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Quote ( James Boylan @ October 19th 2021,19:18:01 )
Having four guys going for promotion means nobody in the top 10 is sandbagging this year to avoid it. Points for the managers outside the top 10/12 are going to be very tough this year. Calling it now, at least one manager is going to retain with 0 points!
Only four? :P i believe 6 of us want to promote this season. Yea i agree, 0 points retention is possible this season lol.
Quote ( Kristijan Mihovic @ October 19th 2021,19:21:18 ) I agree with you James.
After long time I am countig days, hours and minutes until start of the race :)
Only 1980 seconds to the start :P
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Quote ( Juan Diego Milán @ October 19th 2021,19:25:10 ) Only four? :P i believe 6 of us want to promote this season. Yea i agree, 0 points retention is possible this season lol.
Yes...I think I lowered my speed to early...we (all 6 promoters and maybe more) need to push and try to brake this chain until half of season...I dont think it will happen but it would be the best for all of us.
In this pace, we all are going to spent a lot of money and other managers will struggle for points so we will all loose.
Quote ( Juan Diego Milán @ October 19th 2021,19:25:10 ) Only 1980 seconds to the start :P
1456 and counting :)...
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Quote ( Kristijan Mihovic @ October 19th 2021,19:35:44 ) Yes...I think I lowered my speed to early...we (all 6 promoters and maybe more) need to push and try to brake this chain until half of season...I dont think it will happen but it would be the best for all of us.
In this pace, we all are going to spent a lot of money and other managers will struggle for points so we will all loose.
Well, time will say... There're many things that will affect the promotion, we'll see who's up there in the end :P
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Well congrats Juan...you could left me FL but OK :)
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Quote ( Kristijan Mihovic @ October 19th 2021,21:37:13 ) could
Thanks mate, it took a while but it finally came true. I wasn't expecting to do the FL to be fair but won't complain about it :P
Congrats to you too! nice run the last laps!
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Quote ( Juan Diego Milán @ October 19th 2021,21:41:59 ) Congrats to you too! nice run the last laps!
Thanks to Bartek,.this is not the first time he run out of energy...I guess he is really pushing to his limit.
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I am disillusioned with the weather.
I can't fight in these conditions
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I dont understand, did you see wet race next one?
Now you have a chance to shine Oliver :)
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Quote ( Kristijan Mihovic @ October 19th 2021,21:56:48 ) Quote ( Juan Diego Milán @ October 19th 2021,21:41:59 )
Congrats to you too! nice run the last laps!
Thanks to Bartek,.this is not the first time he run out of energy...I guess he is really pushing to his limit.
Maybe, also this track seems have massive energy drain. Watching other groups many guys run out of energy.
Quote ( Olivier Portal @ October 19th 2021,21:59:25 ) I am disillusioned with the weather.
I can't fight in these conditions
Hmm, is hot but is raining... i wouldn't complain so much tbh :P cold races would be better for you, that's true but in rain you're faster than us.
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Quote ( Olivier Portal @ October 19th 2021,22:13:49 ) OK it's raining.
But the start of the season is better for the yokos, isn't it?
/gb/Stats.asp?type=weather&stype=warm#scroll
Yep i agree, this season is good for yokos so far but definitely isn't the worse scenario for BYs either. Imho the hottest were on rain, that means when we were 'strongest' the rain came to tie the ground. I can't imagine how many cold races are waiting for us in this season lol :P
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Quote ( Kristijan Mihovic @ October 19th 2021,21:56:48 ) Thanks to Bartek,.this is not the first time he run out of energy...I guess he is really pushing to his limit.
I will not hide - this is actually first time this season, when I run out of energy. Even more - first time that I made under 10% after the race.
In the topic of next race - it's not even full wet - maybe 3-5 dry laps at start as always, and then 50%-60% in 1h-1h30m perdiod AND 0%-10% in final period. Quick reminder - in S82 it was 75%-85% in final period and stopped raining on lap 52. It will all depends on strategy - back to Estoril - Tony won, Oliver P4 - I with Kristijan messed up with dry start.
Btw. Juan got random in R2, Tony today, when my turn?
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I was a bit excessive :)
But I would like a little freshness so much
I'm still limiting the damage for the moment and I don't intend to slow down in mid-season Kristijan ;)
And congratulations Juan
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Quote ( Bartek Nowak @ October 19th 2021,22:31:16 ) In the topic of next race - it's not even full wet - maybe 3-5 dry laps at start as always, and then 50%-60% in 1h-1h30m perdiod AND 0%-10% in final period. Quick reminder - in S82 it was 75%-85% in final period and stopped raining on lap 52. It will all depends on strategy - back to Estoril - Tony won, Oliver P4 - I with Kristijan messed up with dry start.
Well, is all about 'luck'... i remember a race in montreal (2 seasons ago) where rain started at lap 20 when it was 65- 75 % rain prob. i can bet you that only 1 extra lap in Estoril and i wouldn't make it to the end, then would be better start on dry than rain tyres. and about suppliers i believe that isn't good for BY but durab advantage will help this race, also is better if there rains for them, even if isn't the whole race :P
Quote ( Rafal Celejewski @ October 19th 2021,22:41:24 ) Quote ( Kristijan Mihovic @ October 19th 2021,22:21:37 )
True, but I also think this group is hardest this season...
You sure about that? /gb/Stats.asp?type=bigrace#scroll :)
Lol, don't forget that Bartek and Krijtian messed it at R4, where they would be 1 min faster in OA time... so i believe M1 and M5 are same competitive at least :P
Quote ( Olivier Portal @ October 19th 2021,22:42:21 ) I was a bit excessive :)
But I would like a little freshness so much
I'm still limiting the damage for the moment and I don't intend to slow down in mid-season Kristijan ;)
And congratulations Juan
Thanks buddy. be chill, cold races are coming :P
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Quote ( Juan Diego Milán @ October 19th 2021,22:47:52 ) Lol, don't forget that Bartek and Krijtian messed it at R4, where they would be 1 min faster in OA time... so i believe M1 and M5 are same competitive at least :P
if ... if ... if I didn't have random in R1, I would be almost a minute faster as well ;)
Big Race is just Big Race, there are different situations in each group every race, but trying to judge if a group is the fastest after just 1 race is not a very accurate way to do it IMO.
I wish you no randoms and colder autumn :D
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Quote ( Rafal Celejewski @ October 19th 2021,23:03:14 ) Quote ( Juan Diego Milán @ October 19th 2021,22:47:52 )
Lol, don't forget that Bartek and Krijtian messed it at R4, where they would be 1 min faster in OA time... so i believe M1 and M5 are same competitive at least :P
if ... if ... if I didn't have random in R1, I would be almost a minute faster as well ;)
Big Race is just Big Race, there are different situations in each group every race, but trying to judge if a group is the fastest after just 1 race is not a very accurate way to do it IMO.
I wish you no randoms and colder autumn :D
Well... you're a bit late to wish me no randoms, it happened already and it cost way more than 1 min :P
Anyway, my last worry is who's faster between different groups, i don't care if you're faster or if your group is the fastest. It doesn't make easier for me or anybody around here.
PS. Imho, M1 may be slower than M5, just that doesn't means that is easier.
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@Rafal Celejewski (M5) I do not understand what you are seeing. When I look at the OBR, I can easily make the case that it shows M1 is the toughest group with M5 slightly behind and M2 being the easiest.
Managers in the top 10 - M1=4 , M5=3
Managers in the top 20 - M1=7 , M5=6
Managers in the top 30 - M1=9 , M5=9
Looks pretty close to me, with the edge to M1!
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Quote ( James Boylan @ October 19th 2021,23:48:50 ) @Rafal Celejewski (M5) I do not understand what you are seeing. When I look at the OBR, I can easily make the case that it shows M1 is the toughest group with M5 slightly behind and M2 being the easiest.
Really? I can see 3 managers from M5 at top5 :) Does it mean that only 1 manager defines if a group is tough or not? Let's not forget that so far we have weather which favors yokos and contis.
Quote ( James Boylan @ October 19th 2021,23:48:50 ) Managers in the top 10 - M1=4 , M5=3
Managers in the top 20 - M1=7 , M5=6
Managers in the top 30 - M1=9 , M5=9
That would be a better analysis :)
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Yes, yes, yes. We can discuss this for whole night/day (depends on time zone :D), but still we won't end with any reasonable conclusion.
If I would race today in M5 I would easly win with 40s, but also I would have been 6th in Adelaide, when I was 2nd in M1.
And the most crucial IF - If I would not pick Michelini, I would not be in this promotion battle, thats for sure.
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Exactly, my objection was that it's really hard to determine if a group is tough or not especially when looking at results from one race. There are different strategies across the groups (it means for instance blocking :D) and what is more, different situations and plans of each manager - some do spa every race, some do a different type of training.
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I completely agree, I think OBR is a terrible judge of how tough a group is.
M1 is a tough group as there are 6 managers pushing hard for promotion, leaving the second tier of managers fighting for spots 6-8. As I stated earlier, with managers not taking races off it is going to be very tough for managers outside the top 12-14 to score points. A complete 180 from last season when there was a ton of sandbagging as only 2 managers wanted to promote!
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My positions in M1 and if I was in M5:
R1 - 3 - 4
R2 - 1 - 2
R3 - 1 - 2
R4 - 17 - 14
R5 - 13 - 13
R6 - 2 - 1
This shows that M1 and M5 are really side by side.
OBR time is not important since one random drops you down a lot.
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You guys are missing one importante factor here. Ivan Silva, the true blocker. He start P4 to make sure blocking you to hold his P12 in the end of the race.
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Kristijan was real good at that too, when he was too fast but didn't want to promote! Perfectly viable tactic.
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Quote ( Guilherme Franco @ October 20th 2021,14:24:06 ) You guys are missing one importante factor here. Ivan Silva, the true blocker. He start P4 to make sure blocking you to hold his P12 in the end of the race.
@Guilherme Franco (M5) its called using low risks. Dont blame me if you cant overtake while using the mighty BR tyres. You should have more than enough pace to overtake me easily anyday
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