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How about the option to pit without refueling?
(I am sorry,I am not goint through this entire thread)
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Quote ( Rocco Stallone @ May 29th 2018,20:37:06 ) How about the option to pit without refueling?
(I am sorry,I am not goint through this entire thread)
You'd only want that when remaining fuel exceeds what you plan to take in the next stint, and that's exactly what happens already. Pit for 80 with 83 left in the tank and no fuel will be added ;)
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Quote ( Rocco Stallone @ May 29th 2018,20:37:06 ) How about the option to pit without refueling?
put 10 in the fuel box
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Quote ( Miel Soeterbroek @ May 29th 2018,20:39:45 ) Quote ( Rocco Stallone @ May 29th 2018,20:37:06 )
How about the option to pit without refueling?
(I am sorry,I am not goint through this entire thread)
You'd only want that when remaining fuel exceeds what you plan to take in the next stint, and that's exactly what happens already. Pit for 80 with 83 left in the tank and no fuel will be added ;)
well I'll be schlong hardened and dipped in turd, it makes sense. Thanks Miel
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I have often thought it would be good if the opposite happened. So, you put extra fuel if you happened to pit one lap early because of an unforeseen event. Though, of course, the reason for not doing that is that it would really rather take the strategy out of the management game.
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How about making it so that running a broken car isn't a valid race strategy...
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Quote ( Richard Hylands @ May 29th 2018,21:56:33 ) How about making it so that running a broken car isn't a valid race strategy...
So in essence if one runs out of money, (s)he would be forced to quit ?
As racing is pretty much the only way to make money, in that situation one has to start with a car which potentially breaks on the way.
One would think that forcing people to quit is not a viable model :)
ofc. it's entirely possible that I misunderstood what you meant
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I never said anything about forcing anyone to quit or to not race with a broken car. Make the consequences of mismanaging your money and running with a broken car have more severe.
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So...like insta retirement when you start smoking? You sure you wanna piss that many people off when many of them would or may have already been pissed off from getting some kind of random failure...surely that will just basically kick them while they are already down. It's not a clear cut thing really to enforce...I know people smoke heavily in amateur at this point of the season but it doesn't really happen as much elsewhere.
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Quote ( Richard Hylands @ May 29th 2018,22:07:13 ) I never said anything about forcing anyone to quit or to not race with a broken car. Make the consequences of mismanaging your money and running with a broken car have more severe.
Smoking is a part of managing tho
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Quote ( Richard Hylands @ May 29th 2018,22:07:13 ) I never said anything about forcing anyone to quit or to not race with a broken car. Make the consequences of mismanaging your money and running with a broken car have more severe.
While it is true that you didn't say it, but it doesn't mean the consequence would not be "forced quit".
If you force immediate DNF for all smoking cars, you'd actually take away 50% of race income, which is quite severe punishement on top of the potential hole one already is at, not to even mention the positions loss and other disadvantages which come with the DNF.
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I love reading the forums just for the complete overreaction and extremity of the interpretation to any simple suggestion.
I did not say automatic DNF when starting to smoke (though a random tire puncture will cause this). I said make the consequences more severe than what they are currently.
Make the cars much slower and the consistency of the lap times wider. Just make us think two or three times before choosing not to upgrade a part.
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Richard actually addresses a valid point, that many find an issue (smoking out half a season).. however, i do wonder what the suggestion will change. Those that plan to smoke out a lot of races will probably still do so, they'll just be even slower :P
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Quote ( Richard Hylands @ May 29th 2018,22:33:18 ) I love reading the forums just for the complete overreaction and extremity of the interpretation to any simple suggestion.
When a "suggestion" is as vague as yours, it is subject to all kinds of interpretations.
It's not overreaction to assume your "validity" to mean financial validity, as it is quite common force driving that strategy.
Quote ( Richard Hylands @ May 29th 2018,22:33:18 ) I said make the consequences more severe than what they are currently.
actually you didn't
Quote ( Richard Hylands @ May 29th 2018,21:56:33 ) making it so that running a broken car isn't a valid
however... back to the matter at hand:
Quote ( Richard Hylands @ May 29th 2018,22:33:18 ) Make the cars much slower and the consistency of the lap times wider.
I don't think that to be such a good idea, as in many cases already smokers have difficulties reaching 90% distance.
That said, I do agree (up to a point) that there could be something done.
For example make it near impossible to block (or even hinder) the progress of others with a smoking car.
If someone is going with a smoking car, why should they be able to destroy the race of others.
These days a smoking car can block another for (example) 10 laps, even if the other is using risks.
Make it so that a smoking car just can not block another, even if the other is using no risks and is just a "tad" faster. After all, the smokers driver should already have his hands full trying to stay on track, there should be no chance left for him to do defensive moves.
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See, you guys are totally capable of understanding what my intent was without assuming I wanted every single broken car out of the race.
Give it a little realism and have the smoking cars literally slow down and move off the racing line to allow every faster car by. Make their driver expend more energy trying to control a broken car, etc.
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Quote ( Stuart McIntyre @ May 29th 2018,22:12:04 ) Smoking is a part of managing tho
All you nonsmokers, go play another game plz :)
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The thing is... If/when there is a smoking car, it can actually give others a chance to do better.
The only time when it poses an issue is when the smoking car can hinder the progress of others unreasonably much, which they often do. Overtaking a smoking car should be a cakewalk
Some kind of solution to that should be looked into.
other than that, smokers aren't such an issue, me thinks
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Quote ( Mikko Heikkinen @ May 29th 2018,23:21:25 ) other than that, smokers aren't such an issue, me thinks
We're really not. We are a very peaceful people,always open to share a hit or two and talk about the existential realities of our existence.
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Quote ( Miel Soeterbroek @ May 29th 2018,22:36:57 ) Those that plan to smoke out a lot of races will probably still do so, they'll just be even slower :P
But it would make the 90% distance reduced race income a lot more effective...
edit - or maybe not, I forget, is it distance or time from leader? I always thought that if you were super slow multi pitting you could drop out of the 90% zone and get half race income, been a while since ive had to worry about it lol
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Quote ( Rocco Stallone @ May 29th 2018,21:40:49 ) well I'll be schlong hardened and dipped in turd
This makes me proud to be an American.
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Quote ( Sam Norris @ May 29th 2018,23:26:54 ) But it would make the 90% distance reduced race income a lot more effective...
edit - or maybe not, I forget, is it distance or time from leader? I always thought that if you were super slow multi pitting you could drop out of the 90% zone and get half race income, been a while since ive had to worry about it lol
It's from the leader. So the slower you go, the higher the chance of not getting to 90% distance.
There is actually a possibility of not getting the 90% distance done even without smoking, thought that usually requires something like pipi tyres and many pitstops in a high group.
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Quote ( Mikko Heikkinen @ May 29th 2018,23:21:25 ) The only time when it poses an issue is when the smoking car can hinder the progress of others unreasonably much, which they often do. Overtaking a smoking car should be a cakewalk
Daniel Ricciardo just won a race by an effective smoke-out for nearly 50 laps. It isn't terribly unrealistic how it is really.
I think the problem is Mikko it really depends on the 'severity' of the smoke-out...as far as I can tell, the game treats most problems with a similar grace (apart from race enders ofc). And I suppose it would be hard then to separate the mild smoke-outs to the gushing plume ones :)
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Quote ( Stuart Foster @ May 29th 2018,23:45:32 ) Daniel Ricciardo just won a race by an effective smoke-out for nearly 50 laps. It isn't terribly unrealistic how it is really.
I wish i had him in my car
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Quote ( Stuart Foster @ May 29th 2018,23:45:32 ) Daniel Ricciardo just won a race by an effective smoke-out for nearly 50 laps. It isn't terribly unrealistic how it is really.
Losing some gears is no way the same as your engine imploding with 50 laps of the race to go.
Quote ( Stuart Foster @ May 29th 2018,23:45:32 ) I think the problem is Mikko it really depends on the 'severity' of the smoke-out...as far as I can tell, the game treats most problems with a similar grace (apart from race enders ofc). And I suppose it would be hard then to separate the mild smoke-outs to the gushing plume ones :)
Sure about that?
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Could be worse, your brakes could fail and you run over the back of someone's head
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I said most Mark, enough room for a level of ambiguity to not be so sure :)
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You assume a smoking car to be a broken one. Maybe in this game the smoke graphic simply represents a fault? Perhaps this game would've interpreted Ricciardo's MGUK failure with the same graphic? He still won the race ;)
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But you said "It isn't terribly unrealistic how it is really." and referred to a car at Monaco losing a couple of gears when in this game when your gearbox goes it's sat on the straight as you're rounding the swimming pool!
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Some drivers can deal with Tech issues as pointed out with Riccardo, so possibly the correct driver attributes in this game can deal with some too
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