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#1 posted Oct 21st 2021, 21:38:19
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It appears from the like:dislike ratio on my previous comment that many of you are simping for the climate. I would like to know why you're simping for the climate when we all know that climate change was invented by various global governments to control the public.
I would like to hear your best reasoning as to why you simp for the environment instead of contributing to pollution like a chad.
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#2 posted Oct 21st 2021, 21:41:59
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Quote ( Paul Brosnan @ October 21st 2021,21:38:19 ) instead of contributing to pollution like a chad.
That explains why you decided to create this thread.
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#3 posted Oct 21st 2021, 21:44:11 (last edited Oct 21st 2021, 21:46:38 by Rui Morais)
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Quote ( Paul Brosnan @ October 21st 2021,21:38:19 ) ... we all know...
Do we ??
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#4 posted Oct 21st 2021, 21:45:15
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Quote ( Paul Brosnan @ October 21st 2021,21:38:19 ) <!-- gpro_300x250 --> (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); It appears from the like:dislike ratio on my previous comment that many of you are simping for the climate. I would like to know why you're simping for the climate when we all know that climate change was invented by various global governments to control the public.
I would like to hear your best reasoning as to why you simp for the environment instead of contributing to pollution like a chad. I am a pollution chad.
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#5 posted Oct 21st 2021, 21:51:55
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I like to imagine in some facebook conspiracy group there are a bunch of Global warming deniers having to read a discussion about optimal GPRO strategies so they can feel my pain.
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Quote ( Paul Brosnan @ October 21st 2021,21:38:19 ) by various global governments to control the public. Or at the very least invent ways to tax more.
Here's an example: The Government is constantly inventing new and higher taxes for cars, when in fact the "transportation sector" (including personal and business cars, trucks, busses, airplanes etc.) is "responsible" only for 5%-10% of the whole Country's emissions.
In other words, other sectors produce 90%-95% of emissions but there are no additional taxes going that way.
Conclusion: Environment is just an excuse to tax the common folk,
btw: it's also easy to make up new taxes for transport, after all, the members of Parliaments get free rides in Government cars
ps. this is not to be mistaken as for or against "teh warming", just to point out that the measures done are misdirected at the very least
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Price of gasoline is expected to reach 2€ per Liter in my country by the end of this year, Diesel, Methane and LPG are already super-expensive, so I dont want to spend 600€ every year just to fill my car with death dinosaurus juice. Plug-In and solar panels on the roof are the way.
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#8 posted Oct 21st 2021, 22:17:21
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I'm a fan of Elon Musk, Tesla and their mission. Also love to drive my Tesla.
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#9 posted Oct 21st 2021, 22:36:14
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Quote ( Paul Brosnan @ October 21st 2021,21:38:19 ) we all know that climate was invented by various global governments to control the public.
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Quote ( Jean Chapados @ October 21st 2021,22:17:21 ) I'm a fan of Elon Musk, Tesla and their mission. Also love to drive my Tesla.
Then you must fit the second option in the poll. Those batteries are ecologically expensive to produce. You may think driving your Tesla is eco-friendly but I believe you are mistaken.
But... it must feel pretty cool to be driving a Tesla. :/
Edit: No need to 'simp' for the planet. It will be here long after we have exterminated ourselves. The audacity of humans to believe we can change the effects we started. It's like pissing in the pool, it doesn't matter now.
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#11 posted Oct 21st 2021, 22:52:10
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#12 posted Oct 21st 2021, 22:53:14
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Quote ( Darryl Kucmerowski @ October 21st 2021,22:52:10 ) The earth is also flat
The Earth is Flatastic
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#13 posted Oct 21st 2021, 22:55:29
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<i>It's full of flatulance as well.</i>
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#14 posted Oct 21st 2021, 23:03:11
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Here's what I will say to this 1) fossil fuels are a limited resource - we do not have an endless supply of them. Any way to remove our reliance on them should be a priority to all of us who like things like money, lights or basically any item we currently used today as almost all of them depend on fossil fuels in some way, either in the manufacturing process or to run.
2) It is proven that the planet is warming. You can argue what may be causing that and yes, it has been proven the earth goes through cycles in the past of warming and cooling, but there is no denying the earth's average temperature has increased in the last 100 years. This will eventually warm the oceans too much (basic understanding of how currents and weather work will tell you what's next) and ultimately our weather patterns will shift. This has potential to vastly shift our way of life... depending on how extreme the weather patterns shift, especially considering like 70% of our population lives near bodies of water. If you're denying that any of this is happening then you failed to do any research at all on the topic.
Again, you want to say that we aren't contributing to this? I personally don't see how that's possible since we are the largest population of animals on the planet, but hey, each to their own. Bottom line is the earth is heating up... somehow... and it will affect us at somepoint in the future.
Then again, someday our star will go supernova and the earth will get burned to a crisp :)
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#15 posted Oct 21st 2021, 23:12:41
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99.9% of educated scientists who have expertise in their field, who come from different backgrounds, who are in part non-government funded etc agree that Climate Change is real and human-made. 0.1% (probably even lesss) have made out potential other causes that are further investigated.
But for some reasons people apparently think they know more than those scientists and cling on some weird theories about climate change instead. Is it so much comforting to blame the government when you have no idea what is going on?
In fact, if you have a decent understanding about the subjects, you can make simple Biochemical experiments that even kids understand which prove the greenhouse effect, the higher rate of CO2 and other greenhouse gases in our atmosphere due to fossil fuel etc.
But yeah, all fake :)
TBF, I don't get why people are so scared of getting rid of fossil fuels for example - They'll soon be empty anyway, so we'll need to discontinue them at some point anyway.... The sooner the better. Even people who couldn't care less about the environment would benefit from that.
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Quote ( Roy Mitchell @ October 21st 2021,22:49:36 ) Then you must fit the second option in the poll. Those batteries are ecologically expensive to produce. You may think driving your Tesla is eco-friendly but I believe you are mistaken. Better a first step towards, than no step at all..
I don't know Musk, but without Tesla, Electric cars would still be dubbed boring..
Also I'm ashamed to occupy server space with topics like this
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#17 posted Oct 21st 2021, 23:24:22
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Quote ( Paul Brosnan @ October 21st 2021,21:38:19 ) It appears I am an absolute melon WHAT'S GOOBY THINKING ABOUT??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
@Mike Bell (A64)
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#18 posted Oct 21st 2021, 23:42:55
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Quote ( Paul Brosnan @ October 21st 2021,21:38:19 ) It appears from the like:dislike ratio on my previous comment that many of you are simping for the climate. I would like to know why you're simping for the climate when we all know that climate change was invented by various global governments to control the public.
I would like to hear your best reasoning as to why you simp for the environment instead of contributing to pollution like a chad. Seems you are the simp... What government was on this planet 10000 or a miljon years ago? Climate change has happen and will always happen. Sure human has had influence and specially in last 100 years... and it will take tens of thousands of years do undo it.
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#19 posted Oct 22nd 2021, 00:16:05
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It's not that I like pollution, because I love efficiency of the systems... but I hate electric cars and I think they just move pollution elsewhere, I also been hearing sea levels will rise 10m and petrol will be gone by tomorrow since 1990. I'm also a huge fan of the 1993 movie "Demolition Man" starring Sly, Sandra and Wesley. In this movie there is a Speech from Edgar Friendly that goes like this: "You got that right. See, according to Cocteau's plan, I'm the enemy. Cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech and freedom of choice. I'm the kind if guy who wants to sit in a greasy spoon and think, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecued ribs with the side order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol. I want to eat bacon, butter and buckets of cheese, okay? I want to smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in a non-smoking section. I wanna run through the streets naked with green Jello all over my body reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly might feel the need to. Okay, pal? I've seen the future, you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sittin' around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake singing "I'm an Oscar-Meyer Wiener". You wanna live on top, you gotta live Cocteau's way. What he wants, when he wants, how he wants. Your other choice: come down here, maybe starve to death."
Some times I feel we are getting closer and closer to San Ángeles 2032.
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#20 posted Oct 22nd 2021, 00:26:26
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Amazing. People devote their lives to scientific research to increase humanity's understanding of the world around them, but fuck that, here's a fictional quote.
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From what I understand, most models to predict/simulate future climate conditions are quite shite beyond very small time frames because math hasn't yet developed enough to deal with systems that complex.
However, it is significantly easier to study the patterns in the data we already have. And based on that data, it has been abundantly clear that climate is changing dramatically and it is becoming clearer that human activity is a causal factor.
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I think this topic gives us an opportunity to talk about something rather important.
There are 9 planetary boundaries required to sustain life on the planet. We have crossed four of them and one of those is Climate Change (which includes global warming). When we say "crossed a planetary boundary", it means that we are past the tipping point and it is now an irreversible change going into a positive feedback loop. Global warming is no longer a thing of the future, it is already here.
We have entered a new era called Anthropocene, an era named after us, humans, because of the impact we have had on the earth. This era starts in the 1960s, in this short period of time, our CO2 emissions have rapidly escalated from 315ppm to 410ppm in a span of 80 years, this change is drastic as the CO2 levels on Earth have been below 310ppm for over 800,000+ years. Apart from that we have other Green House Gases such as fluorine.
Graphical representation of CO2 levels: https://u4d2z7k9.rocketcdn.me/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Co2...
At the rate with which we are going, it is no longer a problem for the governments and the corporations. The thing is we are all on the same boat but demarcating portions and then drilling our own holes on the floor not realising the whole boat will sink irrespective of where the hole is made. To make matters worse, when one person on the boat sees another drilling, they start drilling too, because why should they be the ones to miss out on the opportunity? (The Tragedy of Commons)
We really need to start looking into sustainable development while there's still time to maintain the safe operating space. And be more aware of the environmental impacts of our activities.
Would suggest watching this: https://www.netflix.com/in/title/81336476
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In the last 40 odd years, it has snowed in the Sahara desert 4 times or so.
3 of those 4 times have happened in the last 5 years, the other one was 40odd years ago....
I keep seeing so many examples of how much colder places are getting, like right here in my own town, which is alot like Miami, it snowed this year, actual, genuine snow, wife and were out shopping and she got to experience her first ever snow fall, on a coastal town that is hot enough in winter to still wear shorts and t-shirts, it got that cold this year.
So yeah, while things to be concerned about, the image I have in my head is the one from that movie Day After Tomorrow as luck of my experiences with the changes being experienced.
Also, I see alot of geological and such data constantly ignored in these climate change talks, data which does an incredible job of tracking the earths history from long before us humans were around, a time when there was more CO2 and nature was 'bigger' than it is now, and not actually particularly worse of at all looking at the various fossils etc from back then.
There's definitely climate change... but is climate change the abnormal thing, or the expectation of it to remain stagnant when the geological history of the earth tells a completely different story?
The worlds magnetic poles are not even stationary, always moving and have even completely flipped a couple times during earth's history, as the molten core moves, as its said movement that actually keeps it all functioning wrt protection UV radiation, earth rotation etc etc.
The earth's orbit around the sun isn't even fixed, and neither is the location of the sun even, universe itself is in perpetual motion of change. Why would things on earth be different?
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#24 posted Oct 22nd 2021, 10:43:34
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Quote ( Daryl Gee @ October 22nd 2021,00:26:26 ) Amazing. People devote their lives to scientific research to increase humanity's understanding of the world around them, but fuck that, here's a fictional quote.
So, we must comply just because a scientist says so? Do Scientists never ever make mistakes?
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#25 posted Oct 22nd 2021, 10:47:37
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I won't say it is fake.. I am not a hardcore activist, which every retarded on earth seems to be nowadays. but I also do not like to see all the smoke and polution that we create and see in cities.
But having corrupt politicians and journalists, who are tied and paid by the current corporate autocracy we have in place, braging about how those same companies care about the environment communism while creating their capitalist monopoly, doesnt seem to fit. Its a worldwide state of propaganda we have at the moment, yet the simps that support it, are ignorants who just dont see it. - For example, animal activists, clearly use this as an excuse to put in their retarded and 'look like sick' ideas.
Someone mentioned the environmental cost of making those batteries and its very true. If you dont see this, then dont say the others dont know anything, maybe its you who doesnt... Just think that we have the tecnology, yet instead of cars ran by solar panels, they went for eletric batteries.. does that seem to fit to you?! or is capitalist interest and manipulation a thing here?
Capitalism gave us great things and its very likely the reason why the world advanced so much in such a short period of time. But as the monopolies start to settle, I am starting to think it is becoming like the church and only gives you what they want to give you, whenever their previous idea is not profitable anymore.
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Quote ( Ignacio Belatti @ October 22nd 2021,10:43:34 ) So, we must comply just because a scientist says so? Do Scientists never ever make mistakes?
When the vast majority of the scientific community draws the same conclusion, it's not really the whims of just "a scientist" anymore, is it?
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#27 posted Oct 22nd 2021, 11:09:06
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Quote ( Miel Soeterbroek @ October 22nd 2021,10:48:59 ) Quote ( Ignacio Belatti @ October 22nd 2021,10:43:34 )
So, we must comply just because a scientist says so? Do Scientists never ever make mistakes?
When the vast majority of the scientific community draws the same conclusion, it's not really the whims of just "a scientist" anymore, is it?
That said, history is littered with countless examples of the 'majority' of the scientific community being wrong at the same time too, almost like peer pressure, and other outside factors often get to play a role too.
Remember when cigarettes were good for you and so on?
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#28 posted Oct 22nd 2021, 11:15:25
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Uh... Ok Miel. Then I will stop eating beef, using my car, farting and breathing, too. Just because "a lot" of scientists agree.
Back to unsarcastic channel: there might be climate change, solutions are unclear, forcing and scaring people to whatever the reason is is shit.
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#29 posted Oct 22nd 2021, 11:20:43
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Quote ( MG van Rensburg @ October 22nd 2021,11:09:06 ) Remember when cigarettes were good for you and so on?
No, I don't. Please provide the peer-reviewed scientific literature, published in well-respected scientific journals, concluding that smoking is good for you...
Thanks!
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#30 posted Oct 22nd 2021, 11:28:16
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Quote ( Ignacio Belatti @ October 22nd 2021,11:15:25 ) Uh... Ok Miel. Then I will stop eating beef, using my car, farting and breathing, too. Just because "a lot" of scientists agree.
Back to unsarcastic channel: there might be climate change, solutions are unclear, forcing and scaring people to whatever the reason is is shit.
You are a bit of a dishonest little bugger, aren't you. No one is suggesting that you have to stop everything (least of all Miel) and no one is trying to scare you. At least not in the actual science...
And to slightly improve your final statement: Climate change definitely happens, potential solutions aren't really that hard to come up with, and yes, our collective carbon footprints definitely are the reason it is happening, whether you think that is scary or not...
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