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#1 posted Aug 22nd 2020, 00:42:52
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top 50 % no mistakes below that amount mistakes every race session why ?
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Manager, driver, risks. In that order... :)
edit: corrected the order :)
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#3 posted Aug 22nd 2020, 01:39:52
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didn't get that well. Can somebody translate it to english for foreigners? :)
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#4 posted Aug 23rd 2020, 03:27:56
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Quote ( Vitaly Sevov @ August 22nd 2020,01:39:52 ) didn't get that well. Can somebody translate it to english for foreigners? :)
oh youre funny NOT no wonder no one asks questions on here when people like you take the mick crawl back in your hole
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#5 posted Aug 23rd 2020, 03:41:02
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Yeah Clyde, not to mention his mother too...
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#6 posted Aug 23rd 2020, 06:05:09
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@Clyde Wootton (R42) he's not trying to take the mick out of you. You need to understand that when English is not a first language for people they wont understand slang the way you do.
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Quote ( Clyde Wootton @ August 22nd 2020,00:42:52 ) top 50 % no mistakes below that amount mistakes every race session why ?
Yea, I don't understand what you mean by that.
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#8 posted Aug 23rd 2020, 12:25:37
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Quote ( Luke Frost @ August 23rd 2020,06:05:09 ) English is not a first language for people they wont understand slang the way you do.
mate even in our first language it makes no sense, worse if a comma is missing. just saying...
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Let me translate to English:
It appears that the front 50% of managers in a race make no mistakes* the lower 50% make all the mistakes**
* At least, in Amateur, that is incorrect.
** Yup. That is incorrect, too.
My first response is still the same. Try to consider those factors and their effect on setting up a race. Bye :)
You should also search the forums with key words, mate.
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#10 posted Aug 24th 2020, 17:38:58
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Quote ( Casey Stoner @ August 23rd 2020,12:25:37 )
mate even in our first language it makes no sense, worse if a comma is missing. just saying...
I struggled to understand what he said too but I think Translator Roy is on the case. The new Max Watson. Good effort Roy!
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#11 posted Aug 24th 2020, 17:49:08
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Thanks Roy
To be honest I kind of understood the same, but more than slang it seems that the question was telegraphed (for those wondering when telegraph was still used you were charged by the word so you used as least amount of words you could use.)
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#12 posted Aug 24th 2020, 18:34:15
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It looked complete gibberish to me till Mr. Mitchell translated it. Thank you for that.
If that sentence was a telegraph, it would have been a complete waste of money and time tbh. :)
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Quote ( Amitesh Patnaik @ August 24th 2020,18:34:15 ) It looked complete gibberish to me till Mr. Mitchell translated it. Thank you for that.
If that sentence was a telegraph, it would have been a complete waste of money and time tbh. :)
When I was 8-13 years old my mother used to send a lot of telegrams to her family (they lived far away and phone rates were too high and some of them did not have a telephone) and she used to send me to the telegraph office to send them.
IIRC the basic telegram had 10 words and anything above that was charged. So my mother and her relatives became experts on communicating with very few words. 10 Words would be around 60-70 characters (spaces not counted) They would not allow you to try to make long words that included other words so trying something like "thisisasingleword" were not allowed.
They seemed to be in code, until you really understood what they were saying and what they meant, they seemed like full gibberish.
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#14 posted Aug 24th 2020, 19:56:34
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If I try real hard... I might remember 'Morse Code*' and send you a telegram rofl
*Google is your friend :)
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#15 posted Aug 24th 2020, 20:54:51
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Quote ( Roy Mitchell @ August 24th 2020,19:56:34 ) If I try real hard... I might remember 'Morse Code*' and send you a telegram rofl
*Google is your friend :)
As an ex-Scout I should always "be prepared" and have my Morse Code ready (something that I barely remember) but maybe we could try with flag semaphore, I was always more fluent on that one.
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#16 posted Aug 24th 2020, 21:28:54
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I always had the hiccups when doing that. My messages were like the opening post lol
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#17 posted Aug 25th 2020, 11:31:13
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Quote ( Eduardo Sanchez Carenzo @ August 24th 2020,20:54:51 ) I might remember 'Morse Code*'
I was planning on learning Morse Code. Is it useful at all?
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Quote ( Matija Gjurčević @ August 25th 2020,11:31:13 ) Quote ( Eduardo Sanchez Carenzo @ August 24th 2020,20:54:51 )
I might remember 'Morse Code*'
I was planning on learning Morse Code. Is it useful at all?
-.-- . ...
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#19 posted Aug 25th 2020, 12:07:47 (last edited Aug 25th 2020, 12:08:43 by Chris Shaw)
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I sometimes wonder if this game is exclusively bullies, even the guys I respect a lot who are usually helpful nice people. You have to remember people from all backgrounds can play this game. Yeah his question is poorly written but do you think that's deliberate? And yet you mock him when you could've just said can you clarify.
If the question is why do most of the driver mistakes happen in lower leagues - they are still frequent in pro so I wouldn't say it's the top or bottom 50%. Reducing driver mistakes is something you need to learn how to do, and it's also a topic of hot debate since I hear dozens of theories how to set your driver risks. I can't say I know the definite answer myself, I just have a theory too. Probably the top 5% who would say they know for sure, and they aren't gonna share that info...
If you have too many driver mistakes, definitely take a look at your driver risks. You can go up to 100, but it doesn't make it a good idea, put it this way... 100 is VERY high.
Hope this helps.
PS - Vitaly did make a pretty funny joke though, lol.
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Quote ( Matija Gjurčević @ August 25th 2020,11:31:13 ) I was planning on learning Morse Code. Is it useful at all?
Probably as useful as a pet T-Rex on steroids. lol
I wasn't bullying anyone. Not my style. I just blast them once for stupidity... not much else. Stupidity makes me crazy... it's in my DNA ;)
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#21 posted Aug 26th 2020, 05:37:51
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Quote ( Chris Shaw @ August 25th 2020,12:07:47 ) I sometimes wonder if this game is exclusively bullies, even the guys I respect a lot who are usually helpful nice people. You have to remember people from all backgrounds can play this game. Yeah his question is poorly written but do you think that's deliberate? And yet you mock him when you could've just said can you clarify.
Chris
They asked him to clarify, Roy did a good job explaining him some factors, maybe more discussion could have followed. And that was on post#2
Even though the OP is a native English speaker, the question is very badly phrased, English is my second language but my proficiency is quite good and many consider me a native speaker, and I suffered to understand (and I'm quite accustomed to messy English by non-English speakers).
Even I can tell you that I understood the OP differently that when you did., and I'll come back to that issue at the end part.
So we are sitting in Post #3 when Vitaly asks in a playful manner, as you yourself said "a pretty funny joke" for clarification. It simply wasn't an insult, it was just a playful manner to get clarification.
And in post #4, rather than clarifying his question the OP simply slams on him, this time in a very understandable way. Later in posts 5 and later, people ask him to clarify that Vitaly meant no wrong but Clyde never came back to clarify.
In my book, and I think it is the same for many other people, he closes the chance of receiving help.
In fact he himself deviated that conversation from what he wanted to know to the wording on his OP and his later response.
In this case he brought the bullying upon himself. (just look at the number of dislikes)
So going now to how I understood the OP;
By your answer you understood that the top 50% meant Elite, Master and Pro (and some added Ama).
I understood he meant in his own group, why do the top managers in his group have little or no mistakes while the rest have many more?
Kudos to you for taking the time to answer even after Clyde closed the door to some help, at least from me (I agree with Roy, it is in my DNA)
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Well, I thought what the author meant by "mistakes" was the fuel & tyre strategy rather than DMs.
And despite, Vitaly's playful yet totally genuine question, the author chose not to clarify it so made me wonder if the author found some other means to help him.
Also, I don't see any case of bullying here but for that done by the author himself, although Chris does make a valid point about bullying present in the forums, I believe this thread isn't the best example.
Edit: Removed some sentence structural errors.
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#23 posted Aug 26th 2020, 07:01:18
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Quote ( Matija Gjurčević @ August 25th 2020,11:31:13 )
I was planning on learning Morse Code. Is it useful at all?
In communications terms other than the military, navy and Boy Scouts it is pretty obsolete.
For normal people it is a curiosity but could be helpful to know in cases of emergency or as a type of discrete language, I have used it on meetings to communicate simple messages with other people that know it and thus gain support between us by "thinking the same".
What it is for sure, a good way to exercise your brain
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#24 posted Aug 26th 2020, 19:15:50
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Consider it as a post Zombie invasion communication tool.
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#25 posted Aug 26th 2020, 20:58:15
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Quote ( Chris Shaw @ August 25th 2020,12:07:47 ) I sometimes wonder if this game is exclusively bullies, even the guys I respect a lot who are usually helpful nice people. You have to remember people from all backgrounds can play this game. Yeah his question is poorly written but do you think that's deliberate? And yet you mock him when you could've just said can you clarify. I think his second post was the one that got people irked with him.
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Quote ( Roy Mitchell @ August 24th 2020,19:56:34 ) If I try real hard... I might remember 'Morse Code*' and send you a telegram rofl
*Google is your friend :)
and bullying is your trade pmsl not very good at that either
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If I was wanting to 'bully' you I would have pointed out that English is your first language and you are uneducated in that language. Take your own advice, Clyde....
Quote ( Clyde Wootton @ August 23rd 2020,03:27:56 ) crawl back in your hole
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Quote ( Roy Mitchell @ August 26th 2020,19:15:50 ) I have used it on meetings to communicate simple messages with other people that know it and thus gain support between us by "thinking the same".
That sounds interesting, I really should learn it.
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It does sound interesting but that's not my post lol
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I don't know how that happened, I just pressed "quote"
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