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Chris Shaw
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Posts anciens #31 Posté (le) 21 Décembre 2021, 22:58:18 Citer 
Quote ( Stuart Foster @ December 21st 2021,22:56:53 )

What if....there was a christmas party mid-race between those running things? :)


What if Masi has let the unlapped cars come past, and ...

Quote ( Tom Parker @ December 21st 2021,22:52:11 )

There was someone 34 laps down mind D:


.. this guy is still unlapping?
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Posts anciens #32 Posté (le) 21 Décembre 2021, 23:02:08 Citer 
I felt for the guy in my group who I overtook for a 21st time on the last lap to send him into the unclassified bin :)
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Posts anciens #33 Posté (le) 21 Décembre 2021, 23:06:36 Citer 
Felix Bayer in R147 might have the answer to your questions.
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Posts anciens #34 Posté (le) 21 Décembre 2021, 23:15:20 Citer 
Quote ( Geir Pukk @ December 21st 2021,23:06:36 )

Felix Bayer in R147 might have the answer to your questions.


Way to make a great impression in his first ever race....
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Posts anciens #35 Posté (le) 21 Décembre 2021, 23:34:18 Citer 
Check out this guy in my group tonight.
12. -4 -4 Pipirelli Felix Bayer + 112:18.359 42 99 48.646 20.903s

He was 112 minutes behind the leader and did 99 pit stops.
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Posts anciens #36 Posté (le) 21 Décembre 2021, 23:37:48 Citer 
Quote ( Nigel Johnson-Hartlebury @ December 21st 2021,23:34:18 )

He was 112 minutes behind the leader and did 99 pit stops.


We shouldn't have told him that pit stop training is "FOBY"...
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Posts anciens #37 Posté (le) 22 Décembre 2021, 02:10:53 Citer 
Quote ( Nigel Johnson-Hartlebury @ December 21st 2021,23:34:18 )

Check out this guy in my group tonight.
12. -4 -4 Pipirelli Felix Bayer + 112:18.359 42 99 48.646 20.903s

He was 112 minutes behind the leader and did 99 pit stops.


absolute boss
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Posts anciens #38 Posté (le) 22 Décembre 2021, 02:15:00 Citer 
He got the fastest pit stop in his group.
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Posts anciens #39 Posté (le) 22 Décembre 2021, 02:21:42 Citer 
He should get some credit for at least participating.

18/30 didn't even make the attempt.
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Posts anciens #40 Posté (le) 22 Décembre 2021, 03:50:33 (dernière édition (le) 22 Décembre 2021, 03:50:49 par Sébastien Boulanger) Citer 
There is a bug in the matrix !

99 pits but only 42 laps counted ^^

Like i have already says, the system isn't accurate in some places ^^

When the winner cross the line, he made 116 laps and 58 pits !
The race have to be finished for him at 116/117

But he continues up to 200 laps and 99 pits ????
With 42 counted when he does 116 and starting 117 ??

looooool
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Posts anciens #41 Posté (le) 22 Décembre 2021, 04:39:35 Citer 
This is quite funny. Unbelievable 99 pitstops
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Posts anciens #42 Posté (le) 22 Décembre 2021, 09:36:09 Citer 
Would that be 99 stops due to the limit of the stop counter? In reality could he have done even more?
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Posts anciens #43 Posté (le) 22 Décembre 2021, 10:07:47 Citer 
Quote ( Niels Van Heijster @ December 22nd 2021,09:36:09 )

Would that be 99 stops due to the limit of the stop counter? In reality could he have done even more?

That's what i was thinking.

Quote ( Chris Shaw @ December 21st 2021,23:37:48 )

We shouldn't have told him that pit stop training is "FOBY"...

Brilliant lol
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Posts anciens #44 Posté (le) 22 Décembre 2021, 12:11:20 Citer 
Quote ( Sébastien Boulanger @ December 22nd 2021,03:50:33 )

When the winner cross the line, he made 116 laps and 58 pits !
The race have to be finished for him at 116/117


The new race screen isn't representative of the actual situation.
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Posts anciens #45 Posté (le) 22 Décembre 2021, 14:31:59 Citer 
Quote ( Niels Van Heijster @ December 22nd 2021,09:36:09 )

Would that be 99 stops due to the limit of the stop counter? In reality could he have done even more?

Someone made 100 pits in the last race: /RaceSummary.asp?Group=All&Season=78&Race=8&Nat=...
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Posts anciens #46 Posté (le) 22 Décembre 2021, 22:22:53 Citer 
Maybe the use of black flags and out of the race when a car is 107% of the race leader at any point of the GP.
(I didn't think this through, but seems reasonable)
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Posts anciens #47 Posté (le) 2 Février 2022, 08:58:20 Citer 
This might have been covered in another topic I don't know, but why isn't the race finished for everyone when the leader in the group finishes the race.
Once the winner crosses the line, as each car crosses the line behind them their race is finished, regardless of their position or what lap they are on.
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Posts anciens #48 Posté (le) 2 Février 2022, 11:28:20 Citer 
That's a limitation of the race engine. It basically has no concept of "getting lapped". It just has a growing and growing time gap.
The whole "+1 lap" is done in post-processing.
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Posts anciens #49 Posté (le) 2 Février 2022, 12:24:19 Citer 
I always wondered what was going on in this situation:

If for example in Valencia (57 laps) you are 2 laps behind the leader. You are 9th, and finally on the last lap you pass a car and you finish 8th. What is your final result? 9th or 8th? Because in the race summary, it will be noted that you did 55 laps and you was 9th at this time, but the live race showed the 57 laps of your race and you finished 8th.

Thanks ;)
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Posts anciens #50 Posté (le) 2 Février 2022, 13:15:58 (dernière édition (le) 2 Février 2022, 13:19:29 par Raf Lievens) Citer 
Quote ( Mael Grosjean @ February 2nd 2022,12:24:19 )

I always wondered what was going on in this situation:

If for example in Valencia (57 laps) you are 2 laps behind the leader. You are 9th, and finally on the last lap you pass a car and you finish 8th. What is your final result? 9th or 8th? Because in the race summary, it will be noted that you did 55 laps and you was 9th at this time, but the live race showed the 57 laps of your race and you finished 8th.

Thanks ;)

check my last race, I was 12th when leader finished, did a driver mistake => end result: 14th, and my race summary says I only did 56 laps but when I passed the finish at lap 56 I was still 12th...
These kind of things happen in GPRO, in real F1 I would have been 12th...

Even if the +1 lap is done in the post-processing, I think there should be a possibility to take it into consideration.
This however might influence a lot of things, lot's of people know upfront they will be lapped once or twice, so they could even calculate less fuel since they would do fewer laps...
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Posts anciens #51 Posté (le) 2 Février 2022, 13:42:40 Citer 
Quote ( Mael Grosjean @ February 2nd 2022,12:24:19 )

I always wondered what was going on in this situation:

If for example in Valencia (57 laps) you are 2 laps behind the leader. You are 9th, and finally on the last lap you pass a car and you finish 8th. What is your final result? 9th or 8th? Because in the race summary, it will be noted that you did 55 laps and you was 9th at this time, but the live race showed the 57 laps of your race and you finished 8th.

Thanks ;)
You always drive all the laps. If you overtook on the last one, you really did so. In your example, your race summary would say 55 laps and 8th.

I think it's good that everyone drives all laps. What is misleading is the presentation of the final result.
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Posts anciens #52 Posté (le) 2 Février 2022, 14:06:08 Citer 
remember the live race (older version where you see all the cars in line?) It was made where your car shows every lap and for every lap you get assigned a time, if the race is 57 laps like the past race, race mode will show you 57 times and race analysis will also show you 57 times. I bet coding this chance will change many things, and will need complete overhaul of the older version of race.

I don't know if I expressed my thoughts right..
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Posts anciens #53 Posté (le) 2 Février 2022, 15:48:39 Citer 
If the Race Summary panel shows the actual number of laps, relative to the winner, I don't see any major programming changes as the data is stored every lap.
Saving time, money and showing the real situation.
The race ends when the winner arrives, not when the last one arrives.
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Posts anciens #54 Posté (le) 2 Février 2022, 16:02:27 Citer 
The lap counter in the race summary shows how many laps you had completed when the leader finished +1 (the lap you finished after the leader). The race engine treats things as if it is a straight line. This situation (where everyone finishes all laps) means that everyone receives the part wear of all the laps, as well as tyre wear. So, for example, let's say that I make a mistake and underfuel but I finish 2 laps behind the leader so I don't have to driver the final 2 laps and get away with a poor strategic choice. My part wear would also be smaller because of the 2 laps I didn't drive. Is it really fair to reward bad strategy/performance like that?
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Posts anciens #55 Posté (le) 2 Février 2022, 17:39:22 Citer 
Quote ( Marcelo Ascencio @ February 2nd 2022,14:06:08 )

race mode will show you 57 times and race analysis will also show you 57 times.

This

Quite simply, the live racer viewer is simply each player's race analysis displayed on the same screen, in real time.
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